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anoasis![]() Joined Mon 06/18/07 Posts: 1344 |
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Hey JB, I will try to help with what I can. Paganism is usually the broad term people use for some of the people that don't really know what they believe. It's actually kind of a more religious Agnosticism. Pagans usually pick and choose what they like from multiple religions. So they may not consider themself a Christian but they follow the path of christ but also believe in Reincarnation and multiple Gods and Goddesses. It's almost like a make your own religion religion. (Not saying that to be rude, Just looking for the best way to explain it. So if any pagans have a better way please help me. ![]() Wicca is a actual religion that is based more off of witchcraft. Although it is a very nature based religion. There are some differences between Wiccans, Druids, Shamans, and religions of that sort. Although all of those are extrememly nature based dealing with the earths energies more than divine guidance. (Although it is a polytheastic religion so there are Gods and Goddesses) Wicca is a form of paganism and some people use the terms Wiccan and Pagan interchangeably. Sometimes I even slip up and do. Wiccans basically use magick for energy manipulation in their spells. (Prayers for them) If I am not mistaken you would be able to relate that to your Law of Attraction experiments. Only I think you were just asking the universe and wanting the things you were asking for. I don't remember if you said you were doing anything else like praying or casting spells or what not. Although you were asking the Universe for the things you wanted and trusting in the energy to bring it to you. Same basic concept. Anyway. I hope I helped at least a little. I will be honest I am better at answering specific questions over a broad overview. Although if you ever want to know more or if I wasn't very clear in an explanation please ask and I will be more than happy to try to help clarify more. Wow! I'm a pagen and didn't even know it!! But not a wiccan... more of the agnostic, make up your own religion. Use what is true, toss out the obviously contradictory and false- borrow from some eastern (taoist, buddhist) and other nature-based religion/philosophies, throw in a little re-incarnation and belief in a creator. Coat it all with a knowledge of how gloriously imperfect the world and all its creatures are and a desire to do the right thing to increase the goodness in the world and feel good about one's own actions... that's pretty much it. not too formal... Peace. ![]() |
anoasis![]() Joined Mon 06/18/07 Posts: 1344 |
Topic: Politics and your religion
Ahhh..., Redy sorry I just saw your clarification...
When I do attend an organized religious group it is Unitarian Universalist. Generally they tend to be pro-environment and opposed to violence. But the religion is based on personal freedom and choice so there's really not too much coercion. Except I just thought of one thing- most UU's try to be very tolerant and encourage all to attend- e.g. gays are welcomed, all races, all religious beliefs, etc. accepted. BUT if someone wanted to march or otherwise support anti-hate crime or discriminatory laws, etc. that would likely bring unofficial peer pressure censure. I doubt that there would be any official or public scolding but others would show their disapproval individually. Is that the kind of thing you mean? |
anoasis![]() Joined Mon 06/18/07 Posts: 1344 |
Topic: Politics and your religion
My religion is based on the separation of church and state....
there can be no religious freedom if they are connected as the state influenced by a specific religion obviously favors that religions beliefs, etc. of course the separation is quite easy for me as my church is frequently the beach and it's hard to get much state business done there.... Peace ![]() |
anoasis![]() Joined Mon 06/18/07 Posts: 1344 |
Topic: Let's get controversial lol
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I think most religions would feel safe to put up a billboard if they wanted- it's hard to hurt a billboard. But it seems like many religions wouldn't want to put up a billboard. I know people of several religions-muslim, buddhist, hindu, jewish, christian, pagen- but only the christians have really tried to "convert" me while the others just explained their beliefs and respected the fact that I didn't share their beliefs. I'm not sure why that is so. That's just my personal experience, obviously not statistically significant evidence. But everything I have seen on this site has been similar. Maybe it is just because I live in America and Christianity is the dominant religion here? Or maybe it is an inherent difference in practices required by the religion? I fully agree hon :) I just find it curious, (and I'll leave it at that for people's minds to interpret as they will lmao) Yes it is curious... I personally believe that some are insecure in their beliefs and feel that there is "safety in numbers"- I have often seen a religious argument or point bolstered by the logic that "it must be true because a million other people think the same thing". ...and I think that at one time everyone thought that the earth was flat, so the majority opinion doesn't make it right... that kind of madison avenue advertising "band-wagon" approach to logic has no merit for me... Peace and joy to all. ![]() (and to all a good night ![]() |
anoasis![]() Joined Mon 06/18/07 Posts: 1344 |
Topic: Does this define your belifs?
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I believe that atheist/agnostics spend most of their apparently miserable existence trying to cause discord among everyone else in the world so the entire world will be as miserable as them ![]() Really? And are you under the misapprehension that atheists and aganostics are the same thing as well? To me that's like saying that Christians and Satanists are the same thing- because they are both based on the same set of deities aren't they. and the point of your post does not seem to be to create accord or fill others with joy either... strange. also, i am agnostic in that although I do believe in god, I am not so arrogant as to think my beliefs are the only possible answers to questions that NO ONE has incontravertable facts about... ![]() La la la la- the happy agnostic ![]() |
anoasis![]() Joined Mon 06/18/07 Posts: 1344 |
Topic: Let's get controversial lol
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So...I have a question. No hidden meaning, no offence intended, just a general question of curiosity. In my city, you can't drive down the road 10 feet without seeing a billboard or other advertisement stating something like, "Got God?" or "Jesus is King!" or "What have you done for God today?" etc etc, you get the point lol The t.v. is flooded with advertisements for Life Time Christian music CDs and church advertisements, pastors preaching and daily morning programming with Pastor Nancy (I believe her name is). So my question is, how offended would you be if you were driving down the road and saw a huge billboard with a saying like, "Got Satan?" or "What have you done for Allah today?" or "Have you chosen the Buddist path?" In the land of America, let freedom ring, why is it that some things are acceptable and some things are not? Shouldn't it be equal and fair to advertise your religious beliefs in any way you see fit and that if one group of practicers can do it through billboards and tv commercial advertisements, why can't another for fear of persecution? I think most religions would feel safe to put up a billboard if they wanted- it's hard to hurt a billboard. But it seems like many religions wouldn't want to put up a billboard. I know people of several religions-muslim, buddhist, hindu, jewish, christian, pagen- but only the christians have really tried to "convert" me while the others just explained their beliefs and respected the fact that I didn't share their beliefs. I'm not sure why that is so. That's just my personal experience, obviously not statistically significant evidence. But everything I have seen on this site has been similar. Maybe it is just because I live in America and Christianity is the dominant religion here? Or maybe it is an inherent difference in practices required by the religion? |
anoasis![]() Joined Mon 06/18/07 Posts: 1344 |
Topic: Does this define your belifs?
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If so how you change this creed to fit your beliefs? Hmm... I believe in God... creator of heaven and earth. ...and in life everlasting*. *which I think may be reincarnation but I can't know for sure- as I have no memory of having died... it just makes sense to me. ![]() |
anoasis![]() Joined Mon 06/18/07 Posts: 1344 |
Topic: Pat Robertson, Oral Roberts, Jerry Falwell,
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I hate Oprah too but really love Ellen.I guess its her down to earth quality I enjoy. Are you sure for not being a lesbian ?. What?!? ![]() |
anoasis![]() Joined Mon 06/18/07 Posts: 1344 |
Topic: Pat Robertson, Oral Roberts, Jerry Falwell,
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I don't like them. I think they are con men, liars and fakes. Jeanniebean So is Oprah... They probably are all liars. Pretty much everyone lies at some point. I lied this morning. My grandmother asked me if I thought she would ever walk again. I said of course I do. I don't really think she will but I would be very happy if she did and I thought at this point it was better to let her have hope than be completely honest. So I'm a liar. Fake? Who on TV isn't at least a little bit fake? Con men? I'm unaware of Oprah ever threatening people with eternal damnation if they don't send her money... or threatening that she will die if you don't send her money.... Doesn't mean she hasn't said that, just that if she did please let me know. I have heard the other ones say things that I would be unable to differentiate from other con's that attempt to seperate the weak minded or easily confused from their money. |
anoasis![]() Joined Mon 06/18/07 Posts: 1344 |
Topic: Share Jesus without Fear
I thought the first 5 questions were ok, I would be open to discussing... but as soon as you start talking about "sin" I just don't feel like going into it *again*... I've had that discussion too many times.
And heaven/hell? Why any grown person would believe that is beyond my comprehension... To me it sounds like something for children- a santa claus/boogie man scenario... I can be "good" (not perfect but doing my best...) just for the sake of doing the right thing, feeling good about my choices, and not wanting to harm others- I don't need threats of eternal damnation or promises of eternal rewards to make me do the best I can to make the right choices and help others... But that's just me. You go ahead and believe whatever feels true and good but doesn't involve harming others.... ![]() |
anoasis![]() Joined Mon 06/18/07 Posts: 1344 |
Topic: Share Jesus without Fear
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1. Are you a sinner? If by sinning, do I break the tenets of a 1500 year old book? Then hell yeah!! I drink too much caffiene, have drunk alcohol to excess, behaved in licentious behaviours with numerous members of the opposite sex and I dont wash my hands before dinner! Well Belushi, I rarely judge others (who am I after all and all that jazz...) But in this case I just cannot let this pass without expressing my distaste... my disillusionment... my shock and horror... I mean REALLY!!!.... You don't wash your hands before dinner?!?!?! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
anoasis![]() Joined Mon 06/18/07 Posts: 1344 |
Topic: self-denial
Maybe your god wants you to struggle so that the things you learn will be more meaningful to you.
When I was a child I resented it when my father made me earn things that my friends were given and tell me, "you'll appreciate it more if you work for it" but now I do understand what he was trying to do... ![]() ![]() ![]() |
anoasis![]() Joined Mon 06/18/07 Posts: 1344 |
Topic: Perfect...
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Oh yeah!!! Thank you for your pleasant entrance and exit anoasis... ![]() Perfect in our imperfection... to borrow from my love! Yes, I liked that phrasing too... the world is perfectly imperfect. ![]() Although sometimes it takes quite a while to see the perfection of some aspects of creation. Mosquitos come to mind... ![]() |
anoasis![]() Joined Mon 06/18/07 Posts: 1344 |
Topic: Perfect...
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Often 'God' is claimed to be a perfect entity, especially considering the 'God' of Abraham. I wonder of the nature of perfect then, specifically concerning the world at hand. It is obviously not perfect... Creative ![]() But when you speak of the obvious imperfection of the world I *think* it is implied that you are referencing things like disease and death and destruction. These things are difficult to embrace yes.. but the world is imperfect in other ways as well... chaos and overgrowth and frenzy and excitement. Perfect? Perfect implies static to me. No change. Boring. ![]() Maybe a perfect god made it all. Maybe not. I am so imperfect I have no idea what god is really like. ![]() |
anoasis![]() Joined Mon 06/18/07 Posts: 1344 |
Topic: how many?????
Yes but I was at a tent revival and I was about 13 and chock full of hormones... When the weeping, wailing and speaking in tongues really got going I was "overcome".
It was really hot and I think I was actually on the edge of passing out... it was at my best friends christian summer camp and I got baptized later in the week. Fully immersed in the lake; fully clothed- they didn't believe in "mixed bathing". I think I started to "lose my faith" when I found out that dancing was also a "sin"- and french kissing was definitely a no-no, despite the fact that all those christian boys were always trying to stick their tongues down our throats... just like regular boys. Just proves christians are just like everyone else. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
anoasis![]() Joined Mon 06/18/07 Posts: 1344 |
Topic: Is the Bible the perfect source for morality?
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JB is VERY interested in Christianity. I see her alot on this site. Why would someone come here to irritate,unless their real purpose for being here was to find out why some are able to have so much faith and she cannot? It is a sad excistence to think that this is all there is to life. I know that no matter how hard things may seem on Earth, at the end I will spend eternity surrounded by love and happiness. your post makes the assumption that christianity is the only path to faith and an afterlife when in fact there are literally hundreds such paths.... this assumption that non-christian have no faith is quite insulting to those of us, myself included, who are of other faiths. I guess you are offended. Oh, well. ![]() It's not the first or last time I'm sure... |
anoasis![]() Joined Mon 06/18/07 Posts: 1344 |
Topic: Is the Bible the perfect source for morality?
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JB, I don't need you to make me question my beliefs. I am not a robot, I am a human being. Fine, you think I live a fantasy life? That's my problem. I NEED to believe! You know what you are doing. I am not an idiot. Like I said on previous posts. I have gone to Wiccan ceremonies and such for various reasons. But, none to make them question their beliefs. You don't have to agree. Just talk to people. Gheez, this world can be so demanding and ugly. I come to a Christian forum to talk nice. The conversation does not have to be about faith, but it is my choice other than: let's say: " My booty call last night and such,,," I have seen the ugliest things in life and so have many other people on this forum. Peace for once....PLEASE! I miss my husband in California. Everytime I get back from a deployment is he leaving for his. I worry about him so much and I get so lonely. I am a truck driver and he is a pilot. I need to trust that God will take care of him. I need to believe that all this will end good. I just want a normal life. I think I live in Iraq more than here. In fact, that is the case. I pray every night. I should not have tried to committ suice upon my last return. I was a lost soul. I pray for Gods forgiveness everyday. This sounds silly, but to pay Him back I have adopted an abused dog, I am fostering a kitty cat and I am volunteering at the Salvation Army. I don't pat myself on the back....I just need redemption from God. Please let me have that JB. ![]() I still don't know why you think this is a christian forum. It's not. It clearly states it is not. I pray for all the soldiers every day- those I know and those I don't- and I pray you and your family stay safe. ![]() |
anoasis![]() Joined Mon 06/18/07 Posts: 1344 |
Topic: Is the Bible the perfect source for morality?
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I have defended JB numerous times. Then, I come back online and it sounds like she is Christian bashing. I am not sure why she is here. Like I said, maybe she is just curious. But, I have non-religious friends that I have seen get on these forums just to irritate people. They think it is amusing. I have friends of all sorts of faiths, but I would never go onto their forums unless I was there to educate myself on their beliefs. That does not mean I will believe what they do, but I will have a better understanding. I was irritated because I defended her and then she sounded like some of my friends. By the way, I have told them it is not amusing and they should just listen to some music or something while they are drinking if they are that freakin bored. I don't hate JB though, just irritated. but this is not a christian site, or a christian forum or even a christian thread. JB is here because she is interested in religion. Religion does not equal christianity. |
anoasis![]() Joined Mon 06/18/07 Posts: 1344 |
Topic: Is the Bible the perfect source for morality?
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JB is VERY interested in Christianity. I see her alot on this site. Why would someone come here to irritate,unless their real purpose for being here was to find out why some are able to have so much faith and she cannot? It is a sad excistence to think that this is all there is to life. I know that no matter how hard things may seem on Earth, at the end I will spend eternity surrounded by love and happiness. your post makes the assumption that christianity is the only path to faith and an afterlife when in fact there are literally hundreds such paths.... this assumption that non-christian have no faith is quite insulting to those of us, myself included, who are of other faiths. |
anoasis![]() Joined Mon 06/18/07 Posts: 1344 |
Topic: Is the Bible the perfect source for morality?
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kumbaya my lord kumbaya .... what the hell does kumbaya mean anyway? ![]() "kumbaya" = "come by here" the song asks that god be with the singer. I believe it is supposed to be the gullah dialect- I used to live in NC and the gullahs are NC, SC and Georgia island people but I never went to any of those islands and they rarely come to the mainland. i have heard the song sung in both english and gullah. ![]() Sorry- I'm way late to this particular party today and see Redy has already answered quite thoroughly... ![]()
Edited by anoasis on Thu 06/05/08 02:48 PM
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