I see all that you say. Yet what you say circles itself.

So what is the sun and the moon a path and his word.

Where does Righteousness turn to darkness. It leans on a bevel that surely can be tipped?

His name and breathe are they the same?

Or does our spirit relay a fiery tongue that no man can deny.

We are law and the law brings light. Without law is chaos so was our creator ever lawless?


Thier are many paths to destruction my friend but only a narrow way to Life..Shalom...MIles

I agree Tribo.

I would say it does not say they did not go back to the grave or die they were not risen any in any other fashion.

also the only other account I can find of this ir from The Book of Barnabas. Pauls companion.

Now that book does appear to have some problems with it pertaining to the Day of Atonement and how it was done.

Also this i have a problem with the dead rising here for several reasons.

1..is not even slightly mentioned anywhere else. The 2nd Witness.

2nd Yahshua death and ressurrection has come down through the ages. I would be hard pressed to believe if the walking dead came down to Jerusalem somebody would of said WOW look at this and been writing about this historic event they were seeing before thier eyes.

Consequintly I take it with a grain of salt since it alters nothing else. Shalom...Miles

So whare does this teaching/words come from? I see 1 verse in Isa quoted but the rest do you have another bible/scriptures for this? Blessings...Miles

are u saying that Enoch and others rose before the Messiah..

One last thing Tribo.

Thier has been several i don ot know how many in the Mid East Area that have written about..Yahweh the Elohim of War..

Apprently others seen it this way. I may beable to see this with Abraham and Joshua when they concorring land. I do not see it that much in Abraham but he did go to Melchezidec with tithe after fighting and winning in the Valley of the kings. And take sodom and Gommorahs destruction.. I could see why they would call Yahweh the Elohim of War.

In Persian History you find them haveing great Respect for the Israelites as Many kings called them Yahwism or Yahweh Wisdom.. because of thier ability to conquer and the prophets great wisdom.

Shalom my Friend..Miles

The book of enoch has its own merit.

Thier is one important thing in thier it says that does not agree and i believe it says it in the NT.

That Enoch was translated. Or is still living or went to heaven.

The scriptures say all die unless you are in the part of history when Yahshua Returns then you are traslated to a spirit.

He could not of went to heaven and Yahshua be the 1st born. or 1st born of the dead.


I do not know if this is why it was left out but alot of people think much of what it says.

Thier are also many others that was kept out. The bbok of Jasher.. The Book of Wars. I have forgotten but you can find several books written out in the Kings and Chronicles that mention books as if they were using them at that time..Blessings...Miles

Tribo.

I know of no place it says they could not keep the law. Yahshua came as a man. Hence son of man. He said he encoured every temptation man did. Yet he kept it perfectly. Yahweh has always wanted an obediet heart. The sacrafices were thier to show what thier sins cause. Pain. and death. Yahweh is not a respector of persons. Yahshua is the only man to keep it perfectly even though Joseph is called the Testimony in the OT and Yahshua in the NT. My guess besides Yahshua Joseph kept it the best. Now if you look at Joseph the law was written on his heart. After his brothers sold him into slavery he was thrown in prison. Kept his obedience to the law and was found very smart about things in the pharohs eyes. He became ruler over Goshen. When his brothers came to him needding food. He did not say anything to them but haveing joy they were thier,forgiving them as he never even mentioned what they did to him. Hee showed the Law of perfect Love as did Yahshua. But the laws are thier for our own good. Our schoolmaster and anyone knows if you quit practicing your profession you start losing it. You keep this in you and practise it. It grows. The law is called The Royal Law by James.Hebrews says it was not the law that was the problem it was the people. The Holy Spirit coming Yahweh made us the Temple made without hands. And put the law inside us. Hence the cloven tongues of fire on Pentecost. Yahhweh is a consuming fire. The tongue is his word. The people all around said they were saying the wonderful works of Yahweh they each heard in thier own language. Thier was no NT then Tribo. The law is to be written on your heart to do Yahweh does not want or will accept it from someone who is just going through the motions. He wants the Heart.As Ps 53 tells us. A Broken and contrite Heart I will not dispise. The law is in effect but no one is here like the pharasees to tell us our sins. So 99% will not obey it because they have no heart for it. If they did keeep it but out of feeling like they had to instead of out of love for Yahweh then it does them no good at all. They are fooling themselves. The Law is still here it depends on wether or not you hear his voice and follow. This is the calling and then professing and being Baptised with the laying on of hands. The Holy Spirit indwells in you and then you are Chosen. Blessings..Miles

Ex 24:1-8

Now He said to Moses, "Come up to the Lord, you and Aaron, Nadab and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel, and worship from afar. 2 And Moses alone shall come near the Lord, but they shall not come near; nor shall the people go up with him."

3 So Moses came and told the people all the words of the Lord and all the judgments. And all the people answered with one voice and said,"All the words which the Lord has said we will do." 4 And Moses wrote all the words of the Lord. And he rose early in the morning, and built an altar at the foot of the mountain, and twelve pillars according to the twelve tribes of Israel. 5 Then he sent young men of the children of Israel, who offered burnt offerings and sacrificed peace offerings of oxen to the Lord. 6 And Moses took half the blood and put it in basins, and half the blood he sprinkled on the altar. 7 Then he took the Book of the Covenant and read in the hearing of the people. And they said, "All that the Lord has said we will do, and be obedient." 8 And Moses took the blood, sprinkled it on the people, and said, "This is the blood of the covenant which the Lord has made with you according to all these words."
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The difference is the law was our schoolmaster. When you go on to learning on a higher plain. You do not forget what the schoolmaster taught you. No now you enhance it but when in doubt you go back to the basics to learn. I worked Electronics for a long time. If I said ohms law does not apply when trying to figure out anything in it. I could not fix nothing because it is all based on ohms law.. So is the NT based on The OT, Not done away. Doing away with it is why nobody knows what the book says and we have about 1000 different denominations just here in the USA. Stay with the basic and you will not go wrong..Shalom...Miles

If thier is not mind control.. Then why is it that religion will fight tooth and nail to keep thier customs. Even though they know it is not of Yahweh. Yet show them what the Disciples and Yahshua taught and walked and they say well that is done away.. By who's authority is it done away? Is not Yahshua came as our example and yet almost everything he taught and lived is said to of been done away. You can not find anything that says anything has been done away except for the customs that were not of Yahweh. Like hand washings and a sabbath days journey. Nothing of Yahweh has been done away except for sacrifices since we are the New Temple. So if religion goes on and teaches things they know are not to be done.. Then the members follow right along and do them and they will not change thier customs no matter how much proof you can show them. The only reason for this is Brainwashings.. They prefer the commadments of man over the commandments of Yahweh.. You are fullfilling prophecy in doing this but not in a good light... Blessings of Shalom...Miles

Tribo..

I think you have not taken your medicine yet today. Might help you get back to reality. Thier is no so called Rapture as it is defined and thier isnobody in heaven as the breathe that leaves the body goes back to where it came from. This is no thinking intity though. The Valley of the Bones in Ezekiel shows the rising of the dead. But bothy are within a instant so who is going to know the difference. So go sit down take your meds and everything will be ok Tribo.. Really it will be Shalom..Miles

yea JB.. I have watched it several times. They really did a good job..shalom...Miles

The CIA back in the 70's used a guy who worked with a team from UCLA. He told them about bombs being built and desribed to the t where in russia and what to look for. The Blackbird spy plane picked up where he said a large building and they monitored what went in and out. Later on it came to light that everything he described in that building was as he said. They found him in phykic research at UCLA when they would have one person in one room and they would in another put different pictures on a tv screen and they would ask what was oon thier now. He had a very high percentage of being right. When the CIA came to them they desided to ask him what was happening at the Pentegon and he told them what was at a meeting. They called and he was right on. I do not know how long they used this guy and he may be dead since it has been declassified but they were using him to find out what Russia was up to. Have you ever heard about this. I am sure it is on the net somewhere i have not looked. I saw this on I believe the Science channel one day. It was quite interesting.

I just wonder and what you would call it or you believe it actually happens. Is a person not of thier own will but just all of a sudden can see and almost feel like they are in a 3D projection that is on the wall. The person at this time starts to tell other what they are seeing and hearing and that this is taking place at that moment 3,4 or 5000 miles away. With witnesses that after they said had happened CNN breaks in with a news flash 15 minutes later telling about what they are seeing and hearing about.

Do you believe this Phenomenom happens and either way what is it or why/ thanks...Miles

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Ps 90:1-91:1

Yahweh, You have been our dwelling place in all generations. 2 Before the mountains were brought forth,Or ever You had formed the earth and the world,Even from everlasting to everlasting, You are Elohim.
3 You turn man to destruction,And say,"Return, O children of men." 4 For a thousand years in Your sight Are like yesterday when it is past,And like a watch in the night. 5 You carry them away like a flood;They are like a sleep.In the morning they are like grass which grows up: 6 In the morning it flourishes and grows up;In the evening it is cut down and withers.
7 For we have been consumed by Your anger,And by Your wrath we are terrified. 8 You have set our iniquities before You,Our secret sins in the light of Your countenance. 9 For all our days have passed away in Your wrath;We finish our years like a sigh. 10 The days of our lives are seventy years;And if by reason of strength they are eighty years,Yet their boast is only labor and sorrow;For it is soon cut off, and we fly away. 11 Who knows the power of Your anger?For as the fear of You, so is Your wrath. 12 So teach us to number our days,That we may gain a heart of wisdom.
13 Return, O Yahweh!How long?And have compassion on Your servants. 14 Oh, satisfy us early with Your mercy,That we may rejoice and be glad all our days! 15 Make us glad according to the days in which You have afflicted us,The years in which we have seen evil. 16 Let Your work appear to Your servants,And Your glory to their children. 17 And let the beauty of Yahweh our Elohim be upon us,And establish the work of our hands for us;Yes, establish the work of our hands.

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10 The days of our lives are seventy years;And if by reason of strength they are eighty years,Yet their boast is only labor and sorrow;For it is soon cut off, and we fly away.


This is very tell telling of when Moses is speaking of. He speaks of at the end of this Generation we FLY AWAY.. This not the common Rapture therory although it does point to this.

1 Thess 4:13-18

But I do not want you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning those who have fallen asleep, lest you sorrow as others who have no hope. 14 For if we believe that Yahshua died and rose again, even so Yahweh will bring with Him those who sleep in Yahshua.

15 For this we say to you by the word of Yahweh, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of Yahweh will by no means precede those who are asleep. 16 For Yahweh Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of Elohim. And the dead in Messiah will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet Yahweh in the air. And thus we shall always be with Yahweh. 18 Therefore comfort one another with these words.
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Notice v 14 talks of those who sleep.. Death is said many times in the Ps. and elsewhere Yahshua even said Lazerus sleeps. Yet he had been dead 4 days surpassing the right of true death at the end of 3 days. Which the pharasees adhered to.

Then verse 17 speaks of his return with those who are alive are caught up.

This very well could be the reason for 2 different sets of believers. In Rev 14 and 15.

Because of satans powers after the 2 witnesses are killed. He goes after the REMNANT of the woman.

Not the woman it speaks the woman is taken away to a place prepared for her.

So anyway I am going to far and getting off topic.

Moses is speaking to this generation today from the start of the Prophecy of that Generation would not be more than 80 years. But he as Yahshua did is telling us to watch. Possibly the last ten years. Which would symbolize a great many things of Yahweh's Judgements. It just gets worse and worse.

I have my own Idea when this started and it is not the forming of Israel.But like i say my idea.

Shalom...Miles

PS.. This is no doubt speaking as I was rereading look at what he speaks of at the beginning. This whole Ps is for us today.

Tribo

Yahweh does not tell you distinctly what a generation is like Ps. 90 does without this being what it is.

Where in scripture does it say so plainly what a generation is as does Ps 90?

The wilderness does not which so many have said 40 years. It does not say that it says this generation will die off and not see the promice land and it took 40 years. Moses was 120 years old..Shalom..Miles

We are told what a generation is in Ps 90. fits to a T..shalom...Miles

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