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Quikstepper Joined Mon 04/28/08 Posts: 1674	Fri 09/19/08 07:29 PM Topic: A Christian Liberal?? QUOTE: QUOTE: It's pretty simple really. If you love Jesus you'll vote for McCain. If you worship Satan you'll vote for Obama. I think you are right Spaceman Here Here!!!!

Quikstepper Joined Mon 04/28/08 Posts: 1674	Fri 09/19/08 07:26 PM Topic: A Christian Liberal?? QUOTE: This may be out there somewhere, and I think it could be in either topic, but I think it goes better here in my opinion because it deals more with being a Christian than what your political idea is from my vantage point because I think your religion might have more weight than your political persuasion or rather it influences your political affiliation. Anywho... I once dated a guy who said it was impossible to be Christian and a liberal because to be liberal meant that you had to entertain ideas that were incongruant with a Christian life so you would in essence turn your back on the other to follow the other's ideology. Any thoughts? I think we should just be true to who we are & the standards by which we live...the heck with trying to be cool. That didn't get many people anywhere or half the population would be in better shape...mentally that is.

Quikstepper Joined Mon 04/28/08 Posts: 1674	Fri 09/19/08 07:23 PM Topic: Finally QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: now don't get bent.....jmo opinion here....when you say critism is the food of wisdom.....I not only disagree but think that is negative. Maybe it's just the way in which you write it...I don't know....I read and got negative. I wrote that I don't do negative or critism It's just not what life is about for me. Love, understanding, compassion, giving, that is what I am about. Now if you were to write Positive begots postitive then I would say yea yea....but negative anything is just that. I would be that person who would walk into a room and I say I will not stand for negative anything....I would walk away first because I find it an utter waste of time. Again think positive and positive things happen...think from a place of nothing but love and that is all that happens...... And see here we go again.......no matter the context of how you mean it...Hitler...does that name bring positive or negative.... I like this: I shall build a house of love, and care, and concern, and understanding, and compassion, and wisdom, but does not allow any response from others except who agrees with them, and base all hearing on this premise, it seems there is no true indication of anything, but rather soon hearing of only patial words, which would create "illusions" of whether such things as wished to build were indeed as successful..... Don't agree with me that is fine...... And may if more lived by the above paragragh and love, care and compassion what a beautiful world this could be. It's like watching the news...I can know what's going on without watching it over and over and over..... There is a difference between learning and being taught and being taught in a critical or filled with critism way. That is ugly no matter how you look at it. I also train animals but I don't teach with negative or critisism ..I train them out of love and respect and they want to please me and be part of my world...But trust me take that same animal and do it in a negative nasty way and that is exactly what kind of animal you will have. Also with my children never is negative or can't part of this household. Definition of negative: expressing or containing negation or denial: a negative reply to my request. lacking positive attributes (opposed to positive): a dull, lifeless, negative character. lacking in constructiveness, helpfulness, optimism, cooperativeness, or the like: a man of negative viewpoint. I am sorry but this is no way to live or regard anything in life. Constant unconditional praise, adulation, agreement and support can, in many cases, weaken one's defenses to the "real" world when not balanced with what all people contain (part negative & part positive). So much so that one slip into a life of complete denial, expecting all to agree and co-sign... OR ELSE. Then one begins to equate love with agreement... "If you loved me, you'd agree (no matter what)... and since you disagree, you don't". This is how a child thinks... I know - I've been there. It's a painful, but necessary shift when someone finally comes along and loves enough to speak their own truth... no matter how it will be received. Are you new.....why the heck would anyone want to live in a negative...there is enough of that all around us. Again please try and understand this. I am a positive person this doesn't mean that negative or "bad" things don't happen..They do on a daily basis...you deal and they then become part of your past. But the constant negative that are in this threads is so mudane that it really makes me almost want to hurl. No one has to agree with anything but it also imo to come in and take something and make it now so dreary is just patetic. When I wrote this thread the first sentence was how others perceive Christians.......The second sentence was how we perceive ourselves and since that is the case to enjoy the dance. Now it turned all negative and once again the whole fun of the thread is lost on all the negative nelly's..... Speak your own truths as I do..then let people take away from it as they wish....I am all for that..... No one said anything about "constant" negative. This was your interpretation, Feral. I would venture to say that the "constant" focusing on only positive may indicate a fear of one's own denied negative. This poster has no wish to live in "mundane" negativity. It has simply been experienced that running from one's own negative creates FAR more negativity and a life way out of balance. We ALL contain both sides of the coin... Until one stops running, admits the negative and takes full responsibility, one can not truly be free (kind of like how confession works). Until this moment is passed thru, more negativity builds like a clogged artery. Does prefacing your post with, this poster being "new" suggest that what has been shared is any less valid? lol lol lol I am sorry and get to know me more and you will see how soooooo unture that is. How can someone fear ones owned negative. I am a POSITIVE PERSON PERIOD. I don't deny the negative I just don't let it in. So hmmmm you think to yourself what does that do? It makes all those around me more positive........and this is solid because I hear it all the time. OMG you hysterical I can't even believe your ramblings that for some warped reason you could ever think negative is ever a good or positive thing....it is sooooooo not. If you don't let negative in.....then it can't do jack diddly now can it. It's not that what you say is any less valid it's just imo of course......giggle....stupid. your post just declared you don't let negative in, then turn and call anothers perception as stupid......do you not hear your own words teach animals and kids having no negatives in anything, then call others stupid, lol...... are you a patholgical liar dear feral? my daughters are 6 and 11, and have more wisdom than to think any other human percpetion is as stupid........ please dear one...... it is most obvious that the negatives you so wish to keep out, are others that have more wisdom than yourself, and believe and have knowing of things that such limtied perceptions can never see, and indeed the negaitves are coming from within, not from the outside, from thoughts of yourself as most wise, as indicated by all your own words, and you just have no sight, that seeing and believing another is as stupid, is as NEGATIVE, and to perpetuate NEGATIVE, such NEGATIVE as extended to all those whom post any other perception different than yourself, putting them down as if they are stupide or less equal, but then indeed, it is not missed, they are believed to be of less value than yourself in all ways....... stupidity cannot be seen unless anything peer stupidly thru eyes that see oneself as having greater wisdom than all others..... You are so wrong.......and hey if you want or anyone wants negative in their lives...then I say have fun with it...But to assume that I can't live my life just fine and dandy without adding the negatives is just to me stupid.....I was not referring to her being stupid just imo to let negative in is stupid...and again if you don't like it...oh well to bad it's how I feel...... Feral...don'tcha know anything girlie?? Pointing out the obvious is now being passed off as being evil...like the wonderful God we believe in. Dontcha know what a tewible person you are??? grrrr.... LOL Edited by Quikstepper on Fri 09/19/08 07:23 PM

Quikstepper Joined Mon 04/28/08 Posts: 1674	Fri 09/19/08 07:17 PM Topic: AMAZING!!!!!! Yes FeralCat...I love those scriptures... They all roll into eachother quite nicely


Quikstepper Joined Mon 04/28/08 Posts: 1674	Fri 09/19/08 05:57 PM Topic: The Highest Goal-To KNOW God! Why do we learn anything? I'm sure it's more than to just debate. Are we seeking wisdom & knowledge that leads to peace & zeal for life & living, in spite of hardships? So we can test things to our lives by applying them to find out the truth of what works or doesn't work, maybe? Our highest goal that goes without rest is knowing God. "They also serve who only stand & wait." A Learner READ: Isaiah 50:4-6, Luke 2:46-52 They found Him in the temple, sitting in the midst of the teachers, both listening to them and asking them questions. —Luke 2:46 The poster in the church hallway pictured a young boy dressed in Middle Eastern clothing, with Bible in hand, walking up a hill to church. The caption read: “Jesus was a good Christian boy who went to Sunday school every Sunday.” As a Jewish boy, Jesus didn’t go to Sunday school and church on Sunday, so the poster was inappropriate. But the picture is correct in portraying Jesus’ desire to be in His Father’s temple to listen to His teaching. When Jesus was 12, He went with His parents to Jerusalem for the Feast of the Passover (Luke 2:41-42). On their way home, His parents realized He was not with them. When they returned, they “found Him in the temple, sitting in the midst of the teachers, both listening to them and asking them questions” (v.46). Jesus had the heart of a learner-disciple. Isaiah writes of Him as Jehovah’s Servant: “The Lord God . . . awakens Me morning by morning, He awakens My ear to hear as the learned. The Lord God has opened My ear” (50:4-5). In His humanity, the Son was open to learn from His Father. Jesus’ example challenges us to be listeners to God’s Word. We too can become learner-disciples if we’ll keep our hearts open to God’s teaching. — Anne Cetas Fill me with the knowledge Of Thy glorious will; All Thine own good pleasure In Thy child fulfill. —Grimes The highest goal of learning is to know God.

Quikstepper Joined Mon 04/28/08 Posts: 1674	Fri 09/19/08 05:48 PM Topic: What will you do? QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: I don't have to have the imagination to believe anything but what God says...I won't be decieved anymore by the lies & tricks of the devil. If you want to be decieved that's your choice...don't try to denegrate mine because I KNOW what I believe in. I don't have to wonder who or what God is anymore...I know because He reveals Himself to the faithful. It IS finished! AMEN! Does that mean I'm the devil???? Ohhh ahhhh!!!! really???? Holy crap, batman! to the batmobile!!! Ok, enough of the sillies.....QS.... I respect your rigidity in your belief structures.... I applaud your decisions to remain true to your faith.... But I have to ask.... why is it that a question, a completely simple game of 'imagine if...' has created such a large reaction? If I may say this without actually insulting (something I do my best to avoid). What is faith?? Is faith believing in what you know to be true?? Is it depending on your experience because "God" has "proved it to you"??? Is it being unchangeable, unmovable, unimaginative in the sense that you will not consider the possibility of anything else..........considering that you may be wrong??? See, because I thought faith was trusting.....trusting in what you do not have any proof of?? If "God" has proved anything to you, that proof is not faith.....it is fact to you. Faith is what goes beyond the facts. Faith is what you have when you have NO facts. Faith is what you have when you have NOTHING to go on. Faith is believing that if you are wrong.........everything will work out as it should anyways. Faith is admitting that you may not know the answers........that the answers may be unknowable to you at this time...............BUT Faith is what you have left........when all the "facts" all the "rituals" all the "titles" all the "names" are taken away......... Faith isn't something someone else can give (including some other "God") but something that is in every person.......something that religions try to have a corner on.......but really can't because every human being has it. I took out the last part because it was a very wrong assumption...it should be because FAITH proves itself. As noticed, I highlighted the imperative in your statement. Another false assumption is saying faith is something not given by God. Also faith is something that God gives us all because, as God's word says, we are all BORN WITH a measure of faith. I have no other statement other to say that some here have found the truth & others are still seeking. Therein lies the difference. Keep looking, God will find you. It's my prayer that you all come to the full knowledge of the truth. They were not any more of an assumption than what you have claimed.........you are no more qualified to know what is truth than I am..........but you seem to think you are. And I am the one who has pride??? Anyhoo, you can not "prove" your statements to me. As I have said many times in this forum, and I don't have many posts, the Bible is not "God's Word" imo so I do not/can not/will not use it as fact or "proof" as you choose to. I'm not stupid, unspiritual, uneducated in the biblical sense, or lacking God simply because it doesn't fit your "program". I do not claim that your personal God is not God to you, I simply say he is not mine.........but yet you try to push him on me??? Anyhoo............... You, and the rest like you are very good at.........proving my main points. Thank you! Well golly gee...you are a very bitter person. I hope you get some help for that.

Quikstepper Joined Mon 04/28/08 Posts: 1674	Fri 09/19/08 05:41 PM Topic: 83 Wall Street lobbyists ..and they had ALOT OF HELP FROM DEMS!

Quikstepper Joined Mon 04/28/08 Posts: 1674	Fri 09/19/08 05:39 PM Topic: A Conservative for Obama RINO REPS are not true conservatives. They are the ones who only care about lining their pockets & the ones you keep complaining about. DUH! You can't even tell the difference, can you??? LOL

Quikstepper Joined Mon 04/28/08 Posts: 1674	Fri 09/19/08 05:36 PM Topic: Conservatives Scare More Easily Than Liberals, Say Scientist Awww... So I'm glad LIBS admit that conservative are the ones with a REAL conscience.

Quikstepper Joined Mon 04/28/08 Posts: 1674	Fri 09/19/08 05:32 PM Topic: Deregulation to Debt Who cares...I hope the world markets all crash. then we can get back to real values instead of speculations, futures & inflationary costs. I say that should rush in all debt forgiveness. Let every country go back to owning it's own. If they really wanted to get us out of debt they would drill & at the same time industrialize alternative resources...that would put people back to work & get the mortgages paid. The best part is getting us off foreign sources of oil. Edited by Quikstepper on Fri 09/19/08 05:34 PM

Quikstepper Joined Mon 04/28/08 Posts: 1674	Fri 09/19/08 05:30 PM Topic: Are you a born conservative (or liberal)? I was born a blue dog DEM & was taught that DEMS were for the WORKING CLASS! Most of us switched when we realized they lost their "compass."

Quikstepper Joined Mon 04/28/08 Posts: 1674	Fri 09/19/08 05:28 PM Topic: patriotic yes...I posted that article. what they don't tell you is that DEMS think anyone with a job is rich anymore. We are drowning in DEM "solutions." TAX TAX TAX TAX TAX!!!!! The problem is they don't know how to stop adding spending to every bill!!!!!!!

Quikstepper Joined Mon 04/28/08 Posts: 1674	Fri 09/19/08 05:25 PM Topic: LIB Hackers lack privacy for Palin QUOTE: QUOTE: QS said,"The only ones we have top worry about invading on our rights are LIBS!" What kind of garbage is this? Isn't it the Bush Administration that likes walking all over the Constitution with wire tapping and invading computers? Sheesh. Oh I see. You think others are committing criminal acts so that justifies you to do a criminal act. Guess if you had anything stolen from you before its okay to do it too. Unlike this bunch of fanatical LIBS...BUSH used the patriot act to protect us...not use it against us. Typical of libs to always run for the WRONG goalpost! Excuse me... they can't even find it anymore.

Quikstepper Joined Mon 04/28/08 Posts: 1674	Fri 09/19/08 05:23 PM Topic: LIB Hackers lack privacy for Palin QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: haha Gosh, how many times have I seen people on this site respond to concerns about privacy with the line, "if you don't have anything to hide why should you worry?" Funny how those same people are now up in arms about what they see as a violation of privacy. The irony is rich here! What I find funny is your ability to disregard the fact they commited a felony. I thought you Libs were all about peace and love? Wrong is wrong and stop trying to candy coat it. My thouhgts exactly... The only thing rich here is the LIB HYPOCRISY! Bastions of freedom & democracy? I think not...more like mob mentality.

Quikstepper Joined Mon 04/28/08 Posts: 1674	Fri 09/19/08 05:19 PM Topic: 8 years of Dubya = $$$DEFICIT Yes well let's just keep letting DEMS raise taxes & add spending to every budget. That's their be all end all. Or else why does Corzine keep running to every other state but his own? DEMs like to complain but they admitted that they haven't a clue as to how to fix the problem. I know they know what they want to do but they dare don't now for that would be political suicide. NOTHING NEW...DEMS WANT TO RAISE TAXES. THE PROBLEM IS THEY KEEP ADDING SPEDNING ALONG WITH IT?????? That's what they want to do. They are just being sneaks about it (that's being polite about it.) Edited by Quikstepper on Fri 09/19/08 05:19 PM


Quikstepper Joined Mon 04/28/08 Posts: 1674	Thu 09/18/08 06:16 PM Topic: Fate Or Destiny? QUOTE: I am making this as general as possible to appeal to EVERYONE, but feel free to use your own understanding in answering... Do you believe in Fate (that you are destined by design to do what you do and be who you are),or do you believe in Destiny (as in you are the captain, you make your own choices and the consequences are the direct result of those choices)? I find it fascinating that those who say they believe in destiny/free will/ whatever, have ALSO been guilty of saying a time or two that "It must have been _______'s will" (supply whatever you want here). You have been know to attribute some of life's events to a 'force outside your control'. So what do you think? Well I may ... hmmm.. fate is left to those who think they have no control over their own destiny. We all make choices...that's free will.. Fate is the inevitable outcome. How'd I do?

Quikstepper Joined Mon 04/28/08 Posts: 1674	Thu 09/18/08 06:14 PM Topic: AMAZING!!!!!! ...and to add to your faith...love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, kindness, goodness... For God so loved the world He gave His only begotten Son that whosoever would believe on Him would not perish but have everlasting life. God has inscribed us in the palm of His hand. This is what the Sovereign Lord, the Holy One of Israel says, "In repentance & rest is your salvation, In queitness & trust is your strength, but you would have none of it. Yet the Lord longs to be gracious to you; He rises to show you compassion. for the Lord is a God of justice. blessed are all those who wait for Him. Come unto Me all you who are weary & heavy laden & I will give you rest. Take My yoke upon you & learn of Me; for I am meek & lowly in heart: & you shall find rest for your soul. for MY yoke is easy & My burden light. Blessed is the man who believes in, trusts in, & relies on the Lord, & whose hope & confidence the Lord is. He shall be like a tree planted by the waters that spreads out its roots by the river; & it shall not see & fear when heat comes; but its leaf shall be green. It shall not be anxious & full of care in the year of drought nor shall it cease from bearing fruit. So.... Roll your works upon the Lord (commit & trust them wholly to Him; he will cause your thoughts to become agreeable with His will) & so shall your plans be established & succeed.

Quikstepper Joined Mon 04/28/08 Posts: 1674	Thu 09/18/08 05:55 PM Topic: RACISM ----- WHAT'S YOUR VIEW? QUOTE: I don't think that you are been rude... someone ask me earlier to explain the purpose of posting this this discussion. There are no specific topic for discussion... just share your opinion of RACISM and i'm sure that some will find interest in what you say and my want to follow up on it. So that ho wthe discussions come about. Here's what I think of racism...at one time it was neccessary to elevate various people to equal status with the rest of society. I think all sorts of people have come along way & it's used in a very twisted way to keep people divided. It's become a political mess (my definition) because why bring these things up for election purposes when these politicans we elect don't do anything for the average American anymore. I think instead of waiting for someone to hand something to us on a silver platter we need to get out there & be our own agents of change. I personally would love to see the nurse, the teacher, the firefighter, the cop, the conductor... run for election. I'd vote FOR them because I consider them to be "one of us." The heck with our physical differences. That & a dime won't get yu a cup o coffee anymore. I'm tired of seeing lawyers & wealthy people run for office. Aren't you? I think that's why there is such an attraction to SARAH PALIN. She's down home unlike hollywood stuffed shirts & the carreer politicans & all their lobbyist pals.

Quikstepper Joined Mon 04/28/08 Posts: 1674	Thu 09/18/08 05:44 PM Topic: Obamadrama 08 QUOTE: sad part is, race has nothing to do with it. I view Obama like I view John Kerry and Al Gore, A Moron. But liberals are desparate, they will play that card till the days of the election and then when McCain Win, Play it After..... I agree...you don't vote for someone because they are black anymore than you should vote for someone because they are a woman or a POW. I find it hilarious that the hollywierd crowd & all the off the wall fanatical lefties think men are stupid for voting for SARAH because she's great looking. Ha! See them get a taste of their OWN medicine. Psst! We all know they are just jealous of her beauty but unlike the rest, SARAH is not just a pretty face. LOL

Quikstepper Joined Mon 04/28/08 Posts: 1674	Thu 09/18/08 05:41 PM Topic: 83 Wall Street lobbyists More like the truth hurts... It blows your 'assumptions" (Which is what they are to begin with)

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