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Topic: Anyone on here with a Pagan beliefe system?

PhearM3
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It seems there are allot of Christians on here (a group I don't identify myself with) So I was wondering if there is anyone on here that has a more Pagan view on life? I don't follow one Specific path, but there are things I believe and things that I don't. My beliefs mostly fall under the Pagan umbrella, so thats what I call myself. Anyone on here a non-Christian or maybe follows a Pagan path?
tanyaann
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Mon 06/16/08 08:04 AM
i'm a christian, but there are a lot of pagans and wiccans on this site.
JTstrang
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I'm kind of Athiest with a touch of agnostic, does that count?
DenaEthridge
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You have company, PhearM3. What's on your mind?
Edited by DenaEthridge on Mon 06/16/08 08:06 AM
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Mon 06/16/08 08:06 AM
I'm a Wiccan myself.
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I just am lol I have more of a general wild facination/curiousity for all religions and will probably spend the rest of my life studying them. As for my own personal belief...mmm...havn't quite defined that one just yet. tongue
Rathil_Thads
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Ummm depends on what you are looking for really. I have considered myself pagan since I was 14. Although I am currently going through another sort of soul searching path in my life where I am just looking for answers and what not. So for the time being and for the purposes on this site I am declaring myself and Agnostic but I know a great deal about the pagan religion and it may turn out that I fall back into that religion by the time my searching is over. So if you are looking for pagans to talk to go ahead and shoot me a message. I am always open for a good religious conversation.
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Yes. I am a Druid.
Always have been. Even before I knew the word.
Jeanniebean
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Mon 06/16/08 09:10 AM
I'm not really clear on what a pagan is. Excuse my ignorance. Could someone clarify to me what a pagan believes?

JB
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QUOTE:

I'm a Wiccan myself.


I'm not sure what a Wiccan is either. I have some idea that they worship the earth mother or something. Is that true?

Could you explain to me what the Wiccan belief is all about?

JB
Giovinetta
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We believe in nature.
Jeanniebean
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QUOTE:

We believe in nature.


So does everybody. What else?
Rathil_Thads
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Hey JB, I will try to help with what I can.

Paganism is usually the broad term people use for some of the people that don't really know what they believe. It's actually kind of a more religious Agnosticism. Pagans usually pick and choose what they like from multiple religions. So they may not consider themself a Christian but they follow the path of christ but also believe in Reincarnation and multiple Gods and Goddesses. It's almost like a make your own religion religion. (Not saying that to be rude, Just looking for the best way to explain it. So if any pagans have a better way please help me. smile)

Wicca is a actual religion that is based more off of witchcraft. Although it is a very nature based religion. There are some differences between Wiccans, Druids, Shamans, and religions of that sort. Although all of those are extrememly nature based dealing with the earths energies more than divine guidance. (Although it is a polytheastic religion so there are Gods and Goddesses) Wicca is a form of paganism and some people use the terms Wiccan and Pagan interchangeably. Sometimes I even slip up and do. Wiccans basically use magick for energy manipulation in their spells. (Prayers for them)

If I am not mistaken you would be able to relate that to your Law of Attraction experiments. Only I think you were just asking the universe and wanting the things you were asking for. I don't remember if you said you were doing anything else like praying or casting spells or what not. Although you were asking the Universe for the things you wanted and trusting in the energy to bring it to you. Same basic concept.

Anyway. I hope I helped at least a little. I will be honest I am better at answering specific questions over a broad overview. Although if you ever want to know more or if I wasn't very clear in an explanation please ask and I will be more than happy to try to help clarify more.
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Pagan

one of a people or community observing a polytheistic religion, as the ancient Romans and Greeks.
a person who is not a Christian, Jew, or Muslim.
irreligious or hedonistic person.
pertaining to the worship or worshipers of any religion that is neither Christian, Jewish, nor Muslim.
pertaining to, or characteristic of pagans.
ireligious or hedonistic.
[Origin: 1325–75; ME < ML, LL pāgānus worshiper of false gods, orig. civilian (i.e., not a soldier of Christ)

Hope this helps sweet JBheartflowerforyou
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Mon 06/16/08 09:37 AM
Oh, and in addition to that. They celebrate the earth based holidays. They have 4 major holidays (That fall on the Equinoxes and Solcstices) and 4 minor holidays (Which are days at the midpoint between the Solstices and Equinoxes known as Cross quarter days)

The Sabbats (As they call their holidays) go through the cycle of life, death, and rebirth for the year.
Rathil_Thads
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QUOTE:

Pagan

one of a people or community observing a polytheistic religion, as the ancient Romans and Greeks.
a person who is not a Christian, Jew, or Muslim.
irreligious or hedonistic person.
pertaining to the worship or worshipers of any religion that is neither Christian, Jewish, nor Muslim.
pertaining to, or characteristic of pagans.
ireligious or hedonistic.
[Origin: 1325–75; ME < ML, LL pāgānus worshiper of false gods, orig. civilian (i.e., not a soldier of Christ)

Hope this helps sweet JBheartflowerforyou


Hey Feral,

Yeah I know that is what the dictionary definition of but I think it is a very biased definition and not really very accurate. Pagans are not necessarily irreligious or hedonistic.

I also don't like the definition of them worshipping false gods. Also it's not necessarily polytheastic as some pagans worship only one god where as some worship no god at all. Just nature. Overall the dictionary definition doesn't do justice to what it is to be a pagan.
Jeanniebean
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That is a pretty general description of pagan. I had heard from somewhere that paganism was an actual religion. If this is so I expected more of a structured belief system. I don't expect a pagan to follow the teachings of Jesus, because that would make them more of a Christian. From what you describe it is just a term to tag on anyone who is not heavily into one of the other major religions.

My understanding of Wiccans is that they worship the earth and the earth mother or goddess, the sun, the moon, the stars, and they practice their version of magick etc. I have friends who loosely consider themselves wiccans or "witches."

I practice my "magick" through the creative techniques but they are not associated with the worship of a particular god or goddess. They are simply using thought and imagination to manifest reality within the implicate order of a holographic matrix. bigsmile

JB

Edited by Jeanniebean on Mon 06/16/08 09:45 AM
Rathil_Thads
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QUOTE:

That is a pretty general description of pagan. I had heard from somewhere that paganism was an actual religion. If this is so I expected more of a structured belief system. I don't expect a pagan to follow the teachings of Jesus, because that would make them more of a Christian. From what you describe it is just a term to tag on anyone who is not heavily into one of the other major religions.

My understanding of Wiccans is that they worship the earth and the earth mother or goddess, the sun, the moon, the stars, and they practice their version of magick etc. I have friends who loosely consider themselves wiccans or "witches."

I practice my "magick" through the creative techniques but they are not associated with the worship of a god or goddess.

JB




Right, Like I said. Pagan is a VERY broad term. It covers an entire set of beliefs and is not a structured religion at all. You could get 100 pagans in a room and they will each believe a different thing and perhaps even worship different Gods. Kind of why I said it is a religious Agnosticism really. They pick and choose what they believe and what makes sense to them and it could come from any religion or multiple religions. (By the way. Not all pagans believe or follow Jesus. I have just known some that like what he was preaching and incorporate that into their belief system.)

You are correct with Wiccans though. There is a earth mother goddess and a God in Wicca. The Goddess is the dominant diety though. They do look towards the sun, the moon, the stars for guidance and understanding and incorporate that into their magick. I only said witchcraft because that is what it is commonly associated with and most wiccans fully accept that. They don't consider being called a witch deragoratory(sp?)
Edited by Rathil_Thads on Mon 06/16/08 09:49 AM
JTstrang
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It's not like any of it is real any way.
Rathil_Thads
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It's not like any of it is real any way.


It's real in the minds of the people that believe it, and sometimes that is more than enough. Thats the problem sometimes is people try to attach black and white definitions to the term "real"

You don't necessarily have to be able to hold something in your hands or see it in person for it to be a real thing. Just like in the minds of Christianity, To them their belief of there only being one true god is real. I may not agree with it as it doesn't make sense to me. Although I can't tell them that for them it's not real. It's just not real to me.

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