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Rathil_Thads
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Thu 06/19/08 05:03 PM
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Are you sure you're only 20 something???


Lol, I can only assume you are talking to me. But yes, I am 23
karmafury
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Thu 06/19/08 06:27 PM
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I think you're right, JB. Joshua was taking a stand for what he would do, irregardless of those around him. Didn't mean to be off topic. Just wanted to talk about what an alternative to a Pagan belief system might be.

Pagan beliefs? Is that belief in a motorcycle gang?laugh


Now I'm trying to understand. If a Pagan were to go into the Christian threads and make such a comment it would be called Christian bashing, question the Bible it is called Christian bashing, Say anything which in any way pokes fun at the Christian faith and it's bashing.

Yet it is fine to do with others.


Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmangry
Rathil_Thads
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Thu 06/19/08 09:52 PM
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I think you're right, JB. Joshua was taking a stand for what he would do, irregardless of those around him. Didn't mean to be off topic. Just wanted to talk about what an alternative to a Pagan belief system might be.

Pagan beliefs? Is that belief in a motorcycle gang?laugh


Now I'm trying to understand. If a Pagan were to go into the Christian threads and make such a comment it would be called Christian bashing, question the Bible it is called Christian bashing, Say anything which in any way pokes fun at the Christian faith and it's bashing.

Yet it is fine to do with others.


Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmangry


Funny how that works out eh Karma??

MorningSong
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Thu 06/19/08 10:21 PM
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I think you're right, JB. Joshua was taking a stand for what he would do, irregardless of those around him. Didn't mean to be off topic. Just wanted to talk about what an alternative to a Pagan belief system might be.

Pagan beliefs? Is that belief in a motorcycle gang?laugh


Now I'm trying to understand. If a Pagan were to go into the Christian threads and make such a comment it would be called Christian bashing, question the Bible it is called Christian bashing, Say anything which in any way pokes fun at the Christian faith and it's bashing.

Yet it is fine to do with others.


Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmangry


KarmaFury....that is just Yashafox's off the wall sense of humor on display.....he wasn't bashing...he does that all the time to us christians toowink

But I agree that bashing of any kind, by anyone ,
is totally uncalled for. heart
Edited by MorningSong on Thu 06/19/08 10:27 PM
Lily0923
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Well at the very least it wouldn't have been accepted with an open heart as it was...Guess you can chalk one up for us now can't you?

Yeah, us...drinker
Rathil_Thads
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QUOTE:

QUOTE:

I think you're right, JB. Joshua was taking a stand for what he would do, irregardless of those around him. Didn't mean to be off topic. Just wanted to talk about what an alternative to a Pagan belief system might be.

Pagan beliefs? Is that belief in a motorcycle gang?laugh


Now I'm trying to understand. If a Pagan were to go into the Christian threads and make such a comment it would be called Christian bashing, question the Bible it is called Christian bashing, Say anything which in any way pokes fun at the Christian faith and it's bashing.

Yet it is fine to do with others.


Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmangry


KarmaFury....that is just Yashafox's off the wall sense of humor on display.....he wasn't bashing...he does that all the time to us christians toowink

But I agree that bashing of any kind, by anyone ,
is totally uncalled for. heart



Sure, that is easy to say now. What Karma was trying to say is that if a pagan went into a Christian thread and made a joke like that. You know, just having a sense of humor we would be yelled at for Christian bashing. Whether that was Yasha's intention or not, obviously it was taken that way by someone. Although thats okay. I don't expect you to acknowledge that anyway. Afterall Christians can do no wrong, right?
Rathil_Thads
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Well at the very least it wouldn't have been accepted with an open heart as it was...Guess you can chalk one up for us now can't you?

Yeah, us...drinker


drinkerdrinker

Woohoo!!
Lily0923
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Fri 06/20/08 10:18 AM
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Sure, that is easy to say now. What Karma was trying to say is that if a pagan went into a Christian thread and made a joke like that. You know, just having a sense of humor we would be yelled at for Christian bashing. Whether that was Yasha's intention or not, obviously it was taken that way by someone. Although thats okay. I don't expect you to acknowledge that anyway. Afterall Christians can do no wrong, right?


You can't say all of them are like that... Whatever bowl of granola you eat from, you're always going to find some flakes and nuts...Even ours...laughlaugh
Rathil_Thads
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Fri 06/20/08 10:36 AM
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Sure, that is easy to say now. What Karma was trying to say is that if a pagan went into a Christian thread and made a joke like that. You know, just having a sense of humor we would be yelled at for Christian bashing. Whether that was Yasha's intention or not, obviously it was taken that way by someone. Although thats okay. I don't expect you to acknowledge that anyway. Afterall Christians can do no wrong, right?


You can't say all of them are like that... Whatever bowl of granola you eat from, you're always going to find some flakes and nuts...Even ours...laughlaugh


That's true and thank you for that correction Lily, I should have made it clear that I am not generalizing everyone. That is why I usually stay away from that argument in general about, Well why is it okay if you guys bash us but we can't even disagree with you or we are bashing you.

There have been many times I have wanted to make that argument in a thread but I just kept my mouth shut because I didn't want to deal with all the people getting defensive on both sides but I figured since Karmafury brought it up this time why not? laughlaugh

Although yes, there are some pagans out there that are just as bad when it comes to not understanding as much as they should about what they are talking about and end up saying things that they shouldn't say. It comes from both sides of the road so people should just learn to take it in stride.
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Yeah, just joking. Didn't mean to be bashing. For that, I usually us a baseball bat. And I still don't have any pagan beliefs. Man, I feel so culturally deprived. Sob!cry
Rathil_Thads
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Yeah, just joking. Didn't mean to be bashing. For that, I usually us a baseball bat. And I still don't have any pagan beliefs. Man, I feel so culturally deprived. Sob!cry


lol, if you feel culturally deprived because of a lack of pagan beliefs then perhaps something is amiss with the path you are on. Just something to think about.

To be fair I didn't think you meant anything bad by your comment. I think the point that Karma was trying to make was that some people may have taken offense if they didn't have a sense of humor. And as Lily pointed out that happens on both ends so as far as I am concerned there are no hard feelings.
yashafox
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Cool beans. Nothing wrong with the path I'm on. The Lord'll keep me straight. I find a lot of people who lack senses of humor. They tell me "That's not funny!" I say, "well, it's just because you lack a sense of humor!" And they really scowl about that. Hmmmmmmm.?! I wonder why.
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Fri 06/20/08 03:09 PM
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Cool beans. Nothing wrong with the path I'm on. The Lord'll keep me straight. I find a lot of people who lack senses of humor. They tell me "That's not funny!" I say, "well, it's just because you lack a sense of humor!" And they really scowl about that. Hmmmmmmm.?! I wonder why.


Some people are just too serious. drinkersmokinbigsmile

It's not good for your health to be too serious.

JB
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Fri 06/20/08 03:09 PM
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Cool beans. Nothing wrong with the path I'm on. The Lord'll keep me straight. I find a lot of people who lack senses of humor. They tell me "That's not funny!" I say, "well, it's just because you lack a sense of humor!" And they really scowl about that. Hmmmmmmm.?! I wonder why.


Lol, sorry, That first line was my attempt at a joke. drinkerI know you are more than content where you are at. Nothing wrong with that.
karmafury
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Fri 06/20/08 08:08 PM
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Yeah, just joking. Didn't mean to be bashing. For that, I usually us a baseball bat. And I still don't have any pagan beliefs. Man, I feel so culturally deprived. Sob!cry


I know that you weren't bashing.

It was simply an observation from past reading.

drinkerdrinkerdrinker
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Fri 06/20/08 08:15 PM
Hey Dennis,

(joking mood here so don't take this serious!)

I still belief in dragons, pixies, and elves. And when I find that planet I will make sure to tell you what they believe in!!laughlaughlaugh

Actually there are a few planets European Scientists have found with Earth like atmospheres.

http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-science/20080616/SCIENCE-SPACE-PLANETS-DC/

Perhaps their religion is pagan with a mixture of Christianity, Muslim, and some Buddha in there to!

Lily0923
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Fri 06/20/08 08:31 PM
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Hey Dennis,

(joking mood here so don't take this serious!)

I still belief in dragons, pixies, and elves. And when I find that planet I will make sure to tell you what they believe in!!laughlaughlaugh

Actually there are a few planets European Scientists have found with Earth like atmospheres.

http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-science/20080616/SCIENCE-SPACE-PLANETS-DC/

Perhaps their religion is pagan with a mixture of Christianity, Muslim, and some Buddha in there to!




Well if it is devoid of stupidity, I'm packing my bags today....bigsmile
Rathil_Thads
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Sat 06/21/08 06:40 AM
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Hey Dennis,

(joking mood here so don't take this serious!)

I still belief in dragons, pixies, and elves. And when I find that planet I will make sure to tell you what they believe in!!laughlaughlaugh

Actually there are a few planets European Scientists have found with Earth like atmospheres.

http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-science/20080616/SCIENCE-SPACE-PLANETS-DC/

Perhaps their religion is pagan with a mixture of Christianity, Muslim, and some Buddha in there to!




Well if it is devoid of stupidity, I'm packing my bags today....bigsmile


smokinsmokinCan I come too?? flowerforyouflowerforyou
Serenity1971
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Don't take life too seriously...It's not permanent!


I've been a practicing Pagan since the age of 12. Yes I have studied religions over the years, it keeps my brain going and makes me more knowledgeable...It may eventually give me some wisdom as well noway


I've read this whole thread and no one actually answered JB truthfully about being a Pagan...Maybe I can clarify a few things that have been muddied over the years.

From the Pagan Federation International

"Paganism is a spiritual way of life which has its roots in the ancient nature religions of the world. It is principally rooted in the old religions of Europe, though some adherents also find great worth in the indigenous beliefs of other countries. Such belief in the sacredness of all things can be found world-wide. Pagans see this as their heritage, and retain the beliefs and values of their ancestors in forms adapted to suit modern life. We celebrate the sanctity of Nature, revering the Divine in all things; the vast, unknowable spirit that runs through the universe, both seen and unseen."

To expand on this a bit...

Being a Pagan is a spiritual path that is followed. It is only in recent times that it has been an accepted form of "religion". What many don't realize is that it has never been a religion, but that label was put on it because it made it more palpable and viable for people. The term Pagan is all encompassing of various spiritual paths, an umbrella; just as Christianity is an umbrella for the various types of Christian based churches.

Examples:

Pagan includes: Druid, Wicca, Egyptian, Greek, Shamanism, Magical Traditions, Eastern, Native American, Norse Heathen, Celtic, Roman, Santeria, Witchcraft and other Earth Centered and Nature Based Spirituality.

Christianity includes: Roman Catholic, Southern Baptist, Jehovah's Witness, Mormon, Pentecostal, Methodist, United Church members, even a small minority of Unitarian Universalists.

Just as Pagan Gods and Goddesses have various names depending on the path as well as the language, Christianity has various names for God and Jesus.

One of these days people will stop defining themselves by their religious and spiritual practices, and just be who they are without desiring a label to be put on them flowerforyou

I hope this helps a bit more JB flowerforyou
Edited by Serenity1971 on Sat 06/21/08 10:17 AM
smiless
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John Lennon- Imagine


Imagine there's no Heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace

You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one

Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world

You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one

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