Topic: Group With Big Pharma Ties
warmachine![]() Joined Tue 04/08/08 Posts: 1363 |
Group With Big Pharma Ties Wants to Shut Down Vaccine “Conspiracy Theories”
Kingpins of Military-Industrial complex say they will “brand” websites they consider “trustworthy and reliable sources of information” Steve Watson Monday, Sept 15, 2008 A foundation populated by the giants of business, banking, government and military wants to “vet” websites and limit the spread of information that it says creates “conspiracy theories”. The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), fronted by Internet creator Sir Tim Berners-Lee, says it is worried about the way the web has been “used to spread disinformation”. Speaking to the BBC, Berners-Lee said that there needed to be a new system that would give websites a “label for trustworthiness” once they had been proved reliable sources. Only then would the rise of “cult thinking” be avoided according to Berners-Lee. “On the web the thinking of cults can spread very rapidly and suddenly a cult which was 12 people who had some deep personal issues suddenly find a formula which is very believable,” Berners-Lee said. “A sort of conspiracy theory of sorts and which you can imagine spreading to thousands of people and being deeply damaging.” Deeply damaging to who? one might ask. The answer is revealed in the list of The World Wide Web Consortium’s 400 plus members, the cream of the corporate world in conjunction with government agencies such as National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) and military entities like the Defense Information Systems Agency (DISA). Berners-Lee cites two examples of such “disinformation” or “conspiracy theories” in his interview with the BBC, both of which speak volumes about the aims and goals of this elite consortium: Sir Tim talked to the BBC in the week in which Cern, where he did his pioneering work on the web, turned on the Large Hadron Collider for the first time. The use of the web to spread fears that flicking the switch on the LHC could create a Black Hole that could swallow up the Earth particularly concerned him, he said. In a similar vein was the spread of rumours that the MMR vaccine given to children in Britain was harmful. First of all, the fears that the CERN atom smasher could create dangerous miniature black holes was not simply made up out of thin air by tin foil hat wearing kooks. It was a theory cited by preeminent scientists such as Professor Otto Rössler, a German chemist at the Eberhard Karls University of Tübingen, who were so worried they attempted to obtain an injunction from the European Court of Human Rights that would block the collider from being turned on at all. A further lawsuit was filed by two American environmentalists in the Federal District Court in Honolulu who sought to force the U.S. government to withdraw its participation in the experiment. The debate and furor over the LHC that followed was in reaction to legitimate news articles and reports surrounding the project and the opposition to it. So you see, far from what the W3C would have you believe, the fears were not unfounded “conspiracy theories” pedaled by basement dwelling internet trolls. But of course, that wouldn’t matter to W3C given that they proudly list CERN itself as one of their members, thus any dissenting or critical material would naturally be considered “disinformation”. Example two, the “damaging conspiracy theory” that MMR vaccines are harmful, stems not from paranoid forum postings and misquoted blog entries, but from scientific research into the mercury based preservative thimerosal, developed by Eli Lilly and subsequently used in the MMR vaccine, along with many other vaccines. Another big pharma kingpin, Merck & Co., Inc, is the world’s largest supplier of the MMR triple jab, which was linked to autism a decade ago by scientists such as Dr Andrew Wakefield, amongst others. Studies have shown a direct relationship between mercury in children’s vaccines and autism. Further studies have shown a decline in neurodevelopmental disorders after the removal of thimerosal-containing vaccines. The preservative has been banned or limited in Europe, Japan, England and Russia. Furthermore, there are no reported instances of autism amongst religious groups such as the Amish community and very few instances are reported in the third world. Autism was a practically unknown affliction some decades back, but now one in every 150 children is affected. Mercury is the second most toxic metal known to man behind Uranium. Thimerosal is used in vaccines not because it is good for you, but purely because it prevents vaccine contamination. Yet some have questioned why thimerosal is even considered for vaccines because there are obviously safer alternatives to preventing contamination. Many believe the only reason it is still in vaccines is that it allows substantial savings for pharmaceutical companies. Questions also remain about how those companies conduct vaccine research and how the government regulates them. While the corporate media continues to hype reports that contend the evidence for links between mercury laden vaccines and autism are not concrete, there are scores of studies and testimony from credible figures asserting the exact opposite, some of which we have previously covered in depth. However, it is little wonder W3C considers such information to be “damaging” given that Eli Lilly and Merck & Co., Inc. are both paid up and approved members of the Consortium! Other W3C members include Novartis Pharma AG and Pfizer Inc., two more giants of the pharmaceutical industry. Though it is abundantly clear that the aim of the World Wide Web Consortium is to relegate and eventually eliminate any information that its corporate and government sector members consider dissenting, the BBC article concludes, “The Foundation will also look at concerns that the web has become less democratic, and its use influenced too much by large corporations and vested interests.” The irony, the horrible horrible irony. If anyone should be labeled with an “unreliable” rating, it is the WC3, a private interest group with a client list of big pharma titans as long as your arm telling you that their multi million dollar vaccine industry is totally safe and that any dissenting scientific fact or opinion, is a damaging conspiracy theory. The efforts of groups and movements such as W3C represent an ongoing move to reign in the internet and limit its freedom. On weekly basis we at Infowars and Prisonplanet receive e mails from across the US and the UK from people who have attempted to visit our websites yet found them to be blocked by filtration software that lists them as “hate” or “violence”. The sites are already categorized as “untrustworthy” on forums and social networks, despite the fact that 90% of the material we post is made up of mainstream news articles. This precedent is merely the first indication of what is planned for the Internet over the next 5-10 years, with the traditional web becoming little more than a vast spy database that catalogues people’s every activity and bombards them with commercials, and where only government-approved websites that have obtained permission by means of an accepted registration application are allowed to be seen by web users. Those who comply with centralized control and regulation of content will be free to enjoy the new super-fast Internet mark 2, where DVD quality movies can be downloaded in seconds, but at the cost of the Internet losing its role as the last true outpost of freedom of speech. |
bergeia![]() Joined Tue 08/12/08 Posts: 1709 |
freedom of speech is nice, but when people go too close to halting amazing scientific breakthroughs i get worried. stem cells could cure cancer, but people dont want them because of religious and ethical beleifs. i really think that with the age of the internet and freedom of speech any whacko can say whatever he wants and get away with it, even whil perverting the minds of innocent but easily manipulated people, like the senate,lol. honestly though people need ot relax and see where things go, im all for science showing us the way, calm down,lol
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warmachine![]() Joined Tue 04/08/08 Posts: 1363 |
On the other side of it, if those who want to see more investigation before making some of these choices are going to have all opposing discussion silenced or shelved, thats also a problem.
Maybe if they'd simply go on the tube and debate the points in a easily provable scientific format, then these things wouldn't happen. |
bergeia![]() Joined Tue 08/12/08 Posts: 1709 |
true. and while i do agree that the idea of miniature black holes moving slower than light speed and potentially trapping our planet is scary, science has been right mostly so far. lol. i have faith that the brightest minds in our world wont kill us all,lol.
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laughsandgiggles![]() Joined Sun 10/28/07 Posts: 417 |
Thimerasol was removed from all vaccines in 1994 or thereabouts and there is not actual proof that the MMR vaccine causes Autism- I strongly believe this and as I live everday with a son who has Autism i have researched and even now I would immunize him as the actual diseases the shot prevents are pretty detrimental to humanity.
All of these conspiracy theories are just ridiculous and cause widespread panic- why do we feed into them?????????? |
warmachine![]() Joined Tue 04/08/08 Posts: 1363 |
If you read the inserts, I've read eyewitness accounts of getting the MMR jab, then the child has a massive seizure and isn't right ever again, when the informed parents demand the inserts there is thimersol in the jabs.
If it was removed in '94, why did Dubyah veto legislation that would have banned its use in this country? I'm not saying I'm nearly as educated as you would be on the topic, but I spent many years working in the childhood mental health field. One other point is, why did the federal government have to concede that the shots caused the autism in a little girl about a year ago? There's obviously more to it than just the shots, but they are a contributing factor in my estimation. |
warmachine![]() Joined Tue 04/08/08 Posts: 1363 |
Oh, and I think the purpose of the article isn't about the dissenting views as much as it is a group of Global corporate interests getting together to silence that dissent.
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bergeia![]() Joined Tue 08/12/08 Posts: 1709 |
granted its about the silencing, but sometimes silence is needed. i dont want the atom smasher stopped. i want ot see what happens. and its like stem cells all over again, science takes 1 step forward, weirdos force them 2 steps back. thank god ofr blood cords.
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elanher![]() Joined Sat 03/08/08 Posts: 167 |
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Thimerasol was removed from all vaccines in 1994 or thereabouts and there is not actual proof that the MMR vaccine causes Autism- I strongly believe this and as I live everday with a son who has Autism i have researched and even now I would immunize him as the actual diseases the shot prevents are pretty detrimental to humanity. All of these conspiracy theories are just ridiculous and cause widespread panic- why do we feed into them?????????? It is true that thimerosal was removed from vaccines, but what they all fail to tell you is those vaccines that contained it are still on the shelves and being distributed until they expire in late 2009. The MMR vaccine never did contain mercury, but it and all other vaccines contain aluminum, formaldehyde, antifreeze, animal organs, tissues, & urine, phenols, msg, human cells, egg proteins, and a bunch of other crap. Check out the list even available on the cdc site. So who is to say they aren't harmful? There haven't even been any real studies to prove crap either way. I don't think vaccines are the sole cause of autism. I do believe like many experts theres a genetic predisposition and something triggers it. Rather that be vaccines, pesticides, or other chemicals in our environment theres something. I mean children don't just quit talking and lose major skills overnight. Sure some have exhibited signs from birth, but these days the hep b vaccine is given at 10 hours of birth. Maybe these babies don't have a strong enough immune system to handle the overload of all those chemicals. The schedule I was given included like 10 vaccines before kindergarten. Now children receive 36 before they turn 2. Sorry for the rant people, but this is a touchy subject with me. I'm mommy to one with autism as well.
Edited by elanher on Mon 09/15/08 04:17 PM
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warmachine![]() Joined Tue 04/08/08 Posts: 1363 |
I don't think some of the concerns are all that weird, especially in light of some of the horrible things that science and corporate interests have gotten together to do in the past.
There are too many to cite, but how about IBM creating the Nazi numbering systems for their concentration camps or Scientists hiding under the Government umbrella to do the MKUltra or the Montauk experiments. If the corporations and Governments are allowed to band together to decide what is acceptable and what isn't, then are we not already slaves? |
warmachine![]() Joined Tue 04/08/08 Posts: 1363 |
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Thimerasol was removed from all vaccines in 1994 or thereabouts and there is not actual proof that the MMR vaccine causes Autism- I strongly believe this and as I live everday with a son who has Autism i have researched and even now I would immunize him as the actual diseases the shot prevents are pretty detrimental to humanity. All of these conspiracy theories are just ridiculous and cause widespread panic- why do we feed into them?????????? It is true that thimerosal was removed from vaccines, but what they all fail to tell you is those vaccines that contained it are still on the shelves and being distributed until they expire in late 2009. The MMR vaccine never did contain mercury, but it and all other vaccines contain aluminum, formaldehyde, antifreeze, animal organs, tissues, & urine, phenols, msg, human cells, egg proteins, and a bunch of other crap. Check out the list even available on the cdc site. So who is to say they aren't harmful? There haven't even been any real studies to prove crap either way. I don't think vaccines are the sole cause of autism. I do believe like many experts theres a genetic predisposition and something triggers it. Rather that be vaccines, pesticides, or other chemicals in our environment theres something. I mean children don't just quit talking and lose major skills overnight. Sure some have exhibited signs from birth, but these days the hep b vaccine is given at 10 hours of birth. Maybe these babies don't have a strong enough immune system to handle the overload of all those chemicals. The schedule I was given included like 10 vaccines before kindergarten. Now children receive 36 before they turn 2. Sorry for the rant people, but this is a touchy subject with me. I'm mommy to one with autism as well. I think if it's safe enough to inject,then it should be safe enough to drink, so why not have the heads of the companies that make them pop a box of vaccines open and chug one on national T.V.? |
elanher![]() Joined Sat 03/08/08 Posts: 167 |
The heads of the companies don't even have their own children vaccinated.
We live in a greedy world. Everything is for profit. I mean these companies don't give a sh*t about our safety. They make one product that causes an issue and they have another that fixes it and then something happens with it and it just goes round and round. |
warmachine![]() Joined Tue 04/08/08 Posts: 1363 |
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The heads of the companies don't even have their own children vaccinated. We live in a greedy world. Everything is for profit. I mean these companies don't give a sh*t about our safety. They make one product that causes an issue and they have another that fixes it and then something happens with it and it just goes round and round. It's unfortunate how accurate you are. We've long since past the point of beind seen as citizens, we are now just looked at as profit margins. |
Lynann![]() Joined Mon 10/01/07 Posts: 574 |
Vaccinations...I was born at the last of the 50's...polio had devastating affects on the generation I was at the tail end of. The polio vaccine saved many children from a horrible disease.
Things aren't black and white are they folks? The FDA is ass deep in work and it's hands are tied by politics and the drug lobby. You are right it is a greedy world and oversight is required. Unfortunately we are all out of luck. As long as professional lobbyist are allowed to run amok in Washington we are all at their mercy, regardless of political affiliation. |
warmachine![]() Joined Tue 04/08/08 Posts: 1363 |
Hmmm, but that FDA is just as corrupt as all the rest of our government agencies these days, when the people running the show at the FDA end up being the same people working for the very organizations they are supposed to regulate and vice versa, isn't that the Fox guarding the hen house?
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elanher![]() Joined Sat 03/08/08 Posts: 167 |
Government, FDA, and Big Pharma...they are all in it together.
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bergeia![]() Joined Tue 08/12/08 Posts: 1709 |
if pharmaceuticals really want to clean up their image all they need to do is send a crap load of medicine to africa, then everyone would sing their praises. the crowd is fickle.
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Winx![]() Joined Fri 08/31/07 Posts: 8844 |
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granted its about the silencing, but sometimes silence is needed. i dont want the atom smasher stopped. i want ot see what happens. and its like stem cells all over again, science takes 1 step forward, weirdos force them 2 steps back. thank god ofr blood cords. When my child was born, I donated the umbilical cord to the Children's Hospital to either be used for a child or for research. |
bergeia![]() Joined Tue 08/12/08 Posts: 1709 |
good on ya winx. i wish stem cells WERE allowed ot be used though. i think wed see more miracle breaktrhoguhs in disease control than in the history of medicine.
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Winx![]() Joined Fri 08/31/07 Posts: 8844 |
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good on ya winx. i wish stem cells WERE allowed ot be used though. i think wed see more miracle breaktrhoguhs in disease control than in the history of medicine. I am for stem cell research too. |